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Wednesday, November 03, 2004
What Could Have Been
Just like four years ago, when I supported a different candidate in the Dem primary than finally won, I can't help but think what could have been if we had nominated a different guy. It's impossible to know, and I'm interested in what you all think (post in the comments below), but given what you learned, how would Dean have done against Bush yesterday? What about Gephardt?

All along one of my major arguments for Dean was that he neutralizes Bush's main strengths - plainspokenness and steadfast commitment to an idea. Dean did the exact same thing, just to the totally opposite side on most issues. So rather than being about trust and decisiveness, the election really would have been about the war - and I always felt that that's where the Dems win. What do you guys think?

Some yesterday said if we had nominated someone likeable like Gephardt, we also wouldn't have had a race here. I don't know.
posted by CB @ 12:44 PM  
  • At 1:15 PM, Blogger JBS said…


    It goes way beyond Dean vs. Kerry. Look at that map the entire internal part of tehcountry is red. Only the NOrtheast, northern midwest and west coast is blue. Democrats have failed over the past 20 years to change with the American heartland (South, Midwest and West). The Republicans have tricked poor machinists or waitresses in Ohio and Georgia and other places into voting for tax plans they don't benefit from and people they have nothing in common with because of what they see as values.

    Clinton was a great President but he has not led a life of strong personal values and they absolutely hate him.

    I don't think the Governor from Vermont with his lefty values would have appealed to these folks.

    I am just so dissapointed now thinking about another four years of Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, Rice and Cheney let alone Bush.

    I don't know what I am more dissapointed about - their win or our failures. This has to be an historic low for us on the left who value progressive and inclusive ideas. The fact that someone would be motivated to vote on an issue like gay marriage with all the other SHIT that is happening is utterly shocking to me and my f'ing values. but anyway.

    HELP great DEM leaders of the past. Where are you FDR. Where are you Truman, Clinton and Kennedy/Johnson...

    The rest of the country does not appreciate our bicoastal values. The "flyover zone" is making all the deceisions now.

  • At 1:22 PM, Blogger CB said…

    Bake - Absolutely right. I think we read the same article (see my recent post).

    At least on the Ashcroft/Rumsfeld thing, I believe it's likely that Bush reconstitutes his cabinet fairly significantly. Ashcroft is almsot definitely out. Rumsfeld maybe out. Powell might leave (Condi would step up). Not sure if any of these will lead to a more moderate administration, but unlike in the electoral race, there's still some hope.

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